IntegraMOD

This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-20T06:33:29-07:00

They are different enough to appeal to different people and you haven't even seen my black theme [flash=,:11z0v8ny]http://www.phpbbireland.com/forum/styles/subSilver/imageset/smilies/rlol.gif[/flash:11z0v8ny]

Don't you just love smilies...

Statistics: Posted Author: Michaelo — Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:33 am

Re: This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-20T01:58:38-07:00

no i was talkin about your template demo option, I havent added one yet lol

And like I said before, it was more of a respect thing seeing as how I used your theme as a base for that one. But if you don't mind I guess ill leave it there lol

Statistics: Posted Author: Frost — Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:58 am

Re: This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-19T23:34:46-07:00

the style select block is aready on your site. You just have to turn it on in acp/IM Portal/Blocks Management

and there are alot of differences in your theme and mine. Like I said before, more options are better.

Statistics: Posted Author: Helter — Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:34 pm

Re: This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-19T22:05:53-07:00

I have a beta site for 141, and that's what im messing with learning themes on its http://www.black-fusion.com

But I don't have the script like yours to allow people to change styles so I can't show different ones, they'd have to do it in their profile.

Basically I'm learning the way templates work, I used your integra2 theme (with your permission) to make the black one that's default on that site ^.

As I stated before, I didn't know you already made a black one and they are very similar.

Statistics: Posted Author: Frost — Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:05 pm

Re: This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-19T21:59:42-07:00

users like choice, so im sure your black theme will be a welcome addition
do you have a demo site?

Statistics: Posted Author: Helter — Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:59 pm

Re: This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-19T21:47:34-07:00

Whoa, I had no idea you already had a black theme made HelterSkelter.

I realise how similar they look now and I will not be releasing mine. Didn't mean to step on any toes

Edit: It was based off integra2 anyways

Statistics: Posted Author: Frost — Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:47 pm

This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-19T15:16:10-07:00

H, you should try my method but I need to add another step based on your findings.... You would have to copy all the template files in the 141 default to the old 140 template and not overwrite existing files... the use the SVN... Mind you, you are so familiar with integra templates by now you could probably code one in your sleep It would be great to have all the coding over so we could go back to building niec themes
Mike

Statistics: Posted Author: Michaelo — Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:16 pm

Re: This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-19T13:19:19-07:00

thx Dark is based on fisubice, so all the dark colors are actually one template.

Statistics: Posted Author: Helter — Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:19 pm

This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-19T11:43:06-07:00

ohhhh I call the Dark Black theme! Looks very nice!!!

Zac

Statistics: Posted Author: ZacFields — Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:43 am

Re: This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-19T04:17:09-07:00

there are many new .tpl files and a few edits that would be required to use i40 templates and even then, they may suffer limited functionality. Originaly I started updating some 140 templates, but I decided to just re-port them from the template integra2. That way there will not be so many template bugs out there.
Ive just started posting the few that are done [url=http]here[/url]

Statistics: Posted Author: Helter — Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:17 am

This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-19T04:06:56-07:00

They should just require a little work to make compatible...

One easy way to do this is:
Take the default 141 theme and set up CVS on it.
Then take another theme and copy all the CVS directories created in the last process into the new theme...

All the changes that need to be made will be highlighted with icons... When you right click on a file you can select 'CVS Diff'... The two files will be opened and you can see the edits that need to be made...

You will need to download the CVS for you OS but it's very useful...
Mike

Statistics: Posted Author: Michaelo — Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:06 am

This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-19T00:10:34-07:00

Helter: Your post put a lot of things in perspective. That is the first time that I have read on here that explains specifically what the holdup is.

I can definitely have some appreciation for a more stable release. I have been around since the 1.3.2 days. I believe the first version I had was 1.3.2c I believe... it was so long ago.

Actually...honestly I didn't switch to 1.4.0 until abotu 6 months ago and PHPBB security is the best thing since sliced bread because all the attacks my forum was getting for DDOS was a major reason my site was running so slow.

I think the only thing I really felt would have been the most helpful was a PHP5 patch to tide the many people over who were buying VPS and Dedicated Servers that came preinstalled with PHP5 and we had nothing to do because a lot of us just assumed since phpbb 2.0.17 and higher is PHP5 compatible that an integramod running that version of phpbb or higher would be also.

I agree with you guys though. Let's just let it go. I remember the release of 1.4.0 .... I also feel as though I remember it lacking an upgrade path.. am I right? And I remember a lot of angry people who thought it was really dumb that we had a new release of the software...but nobody could upgrade to it. And then when it came out, seemed like everyone had problems with it at first. That's why I waited so long to upgrade.... I was smart and knew there might be some bugs initially that would get fixed

But if we have to wait a little longer to get a stable version with an upgrade path... heck i'm cool with that.

ONE QUESTION: Will the 1.4.0 themes work with 1.4.1? It's probably been asked but i'm too lazy to find it.

zac

Statistics: Posted Author: ZacFields — Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:10 am

Re: This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-18T23:05:07-07:00

Well, even though as Michaelo stated above, that we do often regret some of the things we say, I don't. Mine was a post for everyone that comes here, for the developers, the beta team, the styles people, the admins, owners, the mods, the users, everyone.

Just to let you step back and remember everything going on.
It's good that some of you have stated that yes, you know how it is, you do it as well. Then you know for yourself, it's never good to get aggrivated as it only leads to saying or doing something you will regret.

Let's just remember these aren't robots, these are other people who can be affected by a simple post because of that 10 minutes we got aggrivated.

I want nothing more than to try to show everyone that this effort is that of a whole community and people are passionate about it, don't ruin it for them.

Statistics: Posted Author: Frost — Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:05 pm

Re: This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-18T14:06:29-07:00

for those who have been here since the IM132 days you should remember that the development of 140 took much longer than than 141. Near the end of 140 development, things got rushed to get a release out the door. This resulted in a buggy release that required mass overwriting of files to fix. It also left 132 users orphaned, with no clear way to update to 140. You should be thankfull that the current devs learned from these mistakes.
This release is NOT being rushed out the door with intentions of fixing bugs later.
This release is dependant on a functional upgrade path, so as NOT to leave current phpbb, IM132, and 140 users stranded with no easy way to upgrade.
This release is not related to the experimentation that Wekke did on the live Integramod.com site that he called 141. He did that himself, and released no notes before dissapearing. This version of 140 really was really only started about one month before we moved from Integramod.com to integramod2.com. It was just supposed to be a bugfix with a few mod updates and php5 compatibility. You (meaning most users who voiced an opinion) wanted more. More security, more features, more speed, better stability...etc
These requests were taken seriously and so, as Mike stated before, the goal post have moved farther away yet again.
The problem with releasing alot of smaller patches and bugfixes is that when a user post an issue with his forum, we really have no idea what were dealing with. We still get tech questions from users who have not updated thier 140 forum with the security mod updates.
As for this site, It was originally built off of Teelks 141 version. That version is the basis for the current 141 version, but it still had many 140 bugs. As the bugs were found and fixed, they were applied here, because in order for dev to continue successfully, this site must remain functional and dependable.
Just to let you know how close we are to release; This site, almost mirrors the latest beta release. The reason we still insist that the beta not be used in a live enviroment, is the fact that there are still a few know issues being worked on, that will be a tech support nightmare once the release is made final.

Statistics: Posted Author: Helter — Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:06 pm

This Site is 1.4.1 Now???

2006-11-18T12:13:27-07:00

Lets tone it down...
We must appreciate that site owners are often under more pressure from their members than we (the dev team) are from ours... so let not argue amongst ourselves...

In the past few months I have done quite a few 24 hour shifts as it was required to make progress. On more than one occasion I found myself defending the dev team where one or two of our members went over the top with criticism....

We all get angry... most of us would probably re-evaluate and rephrase comments given time to reflect... make allowances for the workload and we will make allowances for the pressure you guys are under...

Mike

Statistics: Posted Author: Michaelo — Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:13 pm