Why aren't there more devs on this project?

[found it]

I may be kicking myself in the ass here but when I post asking for support (which I have done in the past)

asking for help etc etc ....alot of the time i do not get it...a lot of the time my posts do not even get read..lol

but I have solved every problem with my site by myself..I have learnt html code, I can make templates work with php code I have made small mods that I need for my sites and a few blocks along the way....

I started in november 2004 as I had a lot of free time with work and i wanted to learn something.....back then it took me a full 2 days to figure out just how to load phpBB onto my server and install it...lol

and then a further 3 months to figure out what the hell anything meant....

All I wanted to say is personally for myself ...and dont get me wrong it is the most frustrating thing in the world when you have a problem and may be just maybe someone knows the answer but doesn't reply...it has been a lesson that i am grateful to have been given...or something like that..

[grizzly_cs]

LOL I love it when a plan comes together.... I thank everyone here, especially Fubie... without their support I would have never been able to do what I have learned to do... I have little to no fear of messing with a database or how things work, granted still cant easily navigate php, mysql but dammit I can usally fix what I and others break...

There are very few places where you will find folks willing to atleast point you in the right direction, seems some forget that these guys get paid little to nothing for their help...

[Dioncecht]

aw c'mon.. we're all a community and we're in this together. I might have gotten a little carried away with my post.. sorry guys. Didn't mean to spark anything...

C'mon.. group hug <img>

[Flex]

For what it's worth, my order with IPB got voided by the billing manager for some reason and wanted me to fax or email more details before continuing, at which point I decided to wait for 141 o: everyone <img>

[Helter]

i think youll be happier with 141 in the long run. Glad your sticking around <img>

[evolver]

Let's not forget:
A lot of time has been spent on 1.4.1

It can be difficult to change concentration from one version to another...
We are all hoping to get 1.4.1 out as soon as possible.

But every request for 1.4.0 can slow down the progress on 1.4.1, while maybe 1.4.1 has allready the answers to some of them...
Unfortunatly the final release is taking so much longer than expected, and many requests about 1.4.0 have been left unanswered...

It is sad...
Sometimes I just wish I could clone myself to make the other me concentrate on 1.4.0
And if it were possible, then why not a second clone to go to work for me so I can spend more time at this...

I think a lot of that will change when 1.4.1 finaly becomes released:
one version to concentrate on, and everybody happy...

Oh yes, how I would love to do this full-time...
But lets face reality, if I would quit my job, I wouldn't even be able to afford myself a computer to do anything here at all...
Paid supportsites don't have that kind of problem, while integraMOD developers can only try to do better...after hours, spending less time with family and less sleeping time at night (also causing bad concentration sometimes)
Sometimes I even dream of code...
These dreams always seem so important that I can't just get up when my alarm-clock sounds...
I really have to finish that code in the dream first, nothing can be more important...
Amazing how dreams can play tricks on us in such a way... <!-- s]

But there are some advantages:
We like what we do, while most paid support-sites will just do it for the money...
And we are not just trying to make it better for everyone, we are also trying to make it better for ourselves.
Nothing limits our support to answer a question, we can even add more spice to it, extra options...
Paid support-sites won't spend time on that, every extra time spent is just a big wast of time and money to them, so it's in their highest interest to answer straight to the point (OK, that's a good thing), but anything more than that would be wasted time and money and they will avoid that...

And last but not least...integraMOD supports everyones work...
Everyone can add new MODS, let others try it and maybe even get it integrated in a next version...
On most paid-supportsites you will loose support just by trying to change something by yourself... Before changing anything you should always ask them first, then only do as they tell you to, or you can certainly kiss their nice support goodbye...

I started looking for support here...
Then when I fixed some problems I became developer...
I didn't know anyone here, I was just a visitor trying to fix some bugs.
So I'm sure that anyone who can do the same, can become developer here...
So the big topic-question:
[color=red]Why aren't there more devs on this project?
can only be answered with another question]Why aren't there more people who try it themselves?[/color]

IntegraMOD is not only a usable script...
It's also something everybody can learn from.
I'm no PHPexpert, I just discovered what I can do by trying, searching for new ways (not only on integraMOD.com) and trying again...
I came here to look for support, and I never even thought I could give that myself...

With integraMOD, I haven't only discovered a portal-forum, I've also discovered something in myself that I wasn't even aware of...
And I'm not the only one.
I'm sure that there would be more devs if more people would try and discover what they can do...

[computerz]

wow .. awesome post evolver...

man, i really feel bad now making this thread.. but i'm able to take something positive from this.

yeah group hug everyone.. we're all in this together.. this is OUR project.. lets make it the best!

[flash=,:271ihm7g]http://rpghq.org/cheers.gif[/flash:271ihm7g]

--EDIT--

And after a touching post like that, recognizing the man who made it, who demonstrated therein much dedication and sacrifice, I say we name the project eVolver 1.0.

[Dioncecht]

wow .. awesome post evolver...

man, i really feel bad now making this thread.. but i'm able to take something positive from this.

yeah group hug everyone.. we're all in this together.. this is OUR project.. lets make it the best!

[flash=,:37t96oja]http://rpghq.org/cheers.gif[/flash:37t96oja]


--EDIT--

And after a touching post like that, recognizing the man who made it, who demonstrated therein much dedication and sacrifice, I say we name the project eVolver 1.0.

I have to agree with computerz.. that was a great answer evolver!

[Flex]

I hope you guys aren't hoping for some of these guys to come back?, Where are they?.

http://integramod.com/forum/staff.php?s ... 5e5e867d7a

I realise some of these guys would have been really helpful in the past, but why keep them as mods, when they don't even visit the forums anymore

[Helter]

the ppl you see listed there were key to the past success of Integramod, whether devs, admin, or mods, so i dont think they should be removed.
I agree though that evolver would make a great mod, but its an admin decision

[Fubie]

Just so everyone knows Evolver has been a part of the Dev team for some time now. Some of the code and fixes in 141 are his. He has also taken my CHMOD script that worked very well and made it something that is incredibly sweet! We are hoping to release it with 141 and I think everyone will love it, I know I do.

[Flex]

Oh really, then give him a DEV uniform <img>.

Good we need people like that. And as for the script that worked very well?...

Release 141 already!! the suspense is killing me! hehe

[Helter]

he's had a Dev tag for a long time...

[MadUser]

What a post!!

It is very encouraging to spill your guts out.
Everybody gets everything out of their system, and then they kiss and make up. I love it! Make room for me!
I too asked many questions and have not always received answers. I looked and tried by myself, and guess what? I succeeded.
I think its part of the fun. You feel really proud after fixing something all by yourself.
I dont know any other support for CMS communities.
I did my research and came up with two winning CMS's: IM, Joomla.
Though people told me that 'SMF' is far more reliable and efficient than 'phpBB', I found IM much more appealing.
As I said somewhere before, I am a software programmer (JAVA) and I must say that, I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A CLEAN OOP (Object Oriented Programming) CODE IN MY LIFE.

I have only been in the PHP field for 2 months, but I hope to be more helpful and contributive in time.
I love you all and I feel like I can trust you.
(especially Adrian)

[obiku]

Nice post Evolver,

An one comment, I think there are a whole bunch of people out there who are putting time into integraMOD. Trying to understand the code, and indirect trying to help developers to solve bugs <img>.

Not everybody can be in the dev team, but we all can help the dev team. I call it synergy 1 + 1 = 3 (hope I say it right, I translated it out of Dutch) And yes we can count in Holland, but what I wanted to say 2 people know more than 1 on it's own.