Integramod2 now KisMod!

[shedt_v]

my daughter has yet to turn 3 years old, and one of her first words was kiss. it's not a sexual thing unless you make it out to be.

[AM]

I know it's not a sexual thing always. You guys have missed my point.

When you hear the name of "kiss portal", does that strike you as something you would want a police department to have as their Intranet forum?

It's not professional...period. Just this very thread is enough to realize there are numerous problems within a name of something.

It automatically brings up questions about it's possible meaning or professionalism, or possible definitions for each acronym letter.

I'm not saying that the sexual ideas will be the result of implementing this software solution for customers. I'm just looking at all the possible angles of what a name might provoke. It's like naming your kid. Do parents weigh out the consequences of what name they give their kids? I would. I would think out as many angle as possible and how the name might be interpreted. It's called "risk management"

I flow chart risks and resolutions for a living. So, perhaps I am one in the crowd that takes a name and looks for potential problems with it.

To each their own in choosing how they select software. Features or names or popularity. I have to consider all because it's my job.

I'm not going to defend my post any more.

[Frost]

I think perhaps you should use what you're good at, and make yourself a chart on what's going on. Maybe you will finally understand things a little better. <img>

I am in no way a developer of this software, I merely saw a ridiculous post complaining about a name that was purely acronymous and saw you trying to associate it with a complex about sexuality or your repetitive crush on marketing ability. However you have been burned before, or whatever you have had to go through to get where you are in your area of expertise is fine, but coming to a volunteer website that develops a cms software of such quality in their spare time to ridicule a name choice that didn't even stick, on a topic that was over a long time ago doesn't exactly denote intelligence. In order for you to have such superior marketing abilities as you claim, wouldn't that require you to be able to scout the situation out well before making a decision? Where was that ability when you needed it most... right here in this post?

I have never seen such a stubborn person using the same excuse of "I'm so confused" to defend a wrong choice in my life. Look down to the bottom of the page... how many members do you see? How many people have been even remotely as close to being as confused as you are right now? Don't know? Because that would require you to actually read all posts relative to this topic to find that out. It is not very hard to understand, and many people have given you the scenario and have told you what happened over and over again. By you refusing to read and understand tells me that you don't really care.

I don't think you are willing to give it a chance because you simply don't understand it. Part of being a web designer and webmaster requires you to keep up with all the new and upcoming technology and advancements. If you are not willing to do that, you will fail.

The way I see it, there are tons of members here who help each other out every single day. They come here everyday and they are active in what goes on, and by doing this they receive all the help they want, they receive tips and suggestions. They all understand what is going on and as you can see will defend it.

Despite your constant ranting about "marketing decisions" and bashing this software, I would still be willing to help you understand what is going on and help you find whatever you need for your clients. As you can see the name of the software is not kismod anymore and your personal problem with that name can be overlooked if you want to try the software out.

That's what makes this a great community. Everyone here helps each other and gets help in return. Let it go and try it and I'm sure you will see we are serious about it.

[AM]

Frost, I'll ignore your comments about being stubborn and using "I'm confused" as an excuse. Considering, the software has so many domains and so much confusion attached to it as to who is the development team, and who is the disgruntled person that sabatoged the project to confuse people.

Enough said about that.

As for your comments about the volunteer development team, I do not see them as volunteer. They get donations to put out a product that people want. I'm sorry if people don't donate. I'm not like that. The reason I want the software to work is because I own my own company and plan to donate on a regular basis if the software works. They will not be my "volunteer team" and I don't appreciate your comments to me. If you are a part of the "volunteer developers" then you will be benefiting financially from my company when I get the software going properly.

Right now there are issues with Cracker Tracker.

If you wish to make any more comments about my personality, my "problems" my stubbornness, the confusion, AND you are a part of the development team, I can assure you, you won't see a dime from my company because I will find another solution.

I had a version from the disgruntled member, and it was not a proper version. Cleo figured that out for me and explained to me what happened to the development team, and why a version existed such as the one my company was testing.

I have downloaded THIS development team's version and am working on the Cracker Tracker issues. Once the site is working, I will be contributing to the development team and will possibly have a contract available to them if they are interested.

Now that I have a proper version, I like the software.

So, shall we let this rest now?

[Helter]

I agree that we should let this rest. I think Frost may have been a little over zealous in his post because he is a member here with ties to this community which he felt was under attack. Established members seem to have more leway in making complaints than new members. Not fair I know, but it is a fact of life anywhere. I have been guilty of this myself because IM has become more than just a project to me. In the past I was just a user of the software and I was impressed with the teamwork and product and wanted to give back. I accomplished this by teaching myself to make/port templates. During this time I felt very protective of the staff and found myself responding to posts such as yours, in a fashion similar to what you experienced here. Now that I am part of the staff, I realize the importance of every member, and try to be a little less harsh, though I still sometimes bark at users who complain <img>
Im glad you stuck around and we are hopefully past this.

As far as donations are concerned. You will see a few members with the integra supporters rank. This is given to any member who makes any donation to the project. All donations are appreciated, but they are rare and the server is expensive. Im telling you this because the staff is truely a volunteer staff. If you feel you need better support than what you get from volunteers, you may do better to make an arrangement with one of our programmers, like Teelk or Mike. Im not sure how they feel about this, but unless your donations to the site exceed $170 usd a month, it is unlikely they will recieve any monitary benifit. If you make a donation here and want to be sure that one staff member recieves it, be sure to note it in your paypal form, and I will be sure they recieve it.