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Integramod2 now KisMod!

PostAuthor: Fubie » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:20 pm

As you may have noticed from the domain redirect. Integramod2 is now renamed to KisMod!

The name change is to help differentiate us from Integramod.com and to stop the confusion.

When released(very soon now) 1.41 will now be known as KisMod 1.0 No longer will we call ourselves Integramod. But having said that we will always remember where we came from.

We will be changing the logo's and footers shortly to reflect the new KisMod name.

If you have any questions or concerns please post here.
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PostAuthor: IntegraMOD » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:23 pm

Is this why me last few posts that I have just posted have vanished without a trace?
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Re: Integramod2 now KisMod!

PostAuthor: Helter » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:30 pm

sorry, it is a big db and took a little time to transfer, so for about a 10 minute span the site was in limbo
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Re: Integramod2 now KisMod!

PostAuthor: Drop-Forged » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:36 pm

Cool Beans!!!

The name change is a good ideaà¢Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚ ¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ¦ <img>
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PostAuthor: Unregistered » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:58 am

kismod stands for? Keep It Simple Modification? am thinking of makin banners <img>
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Re: Integramod2 now KisMod!

PostAuthor: Helter » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:45 am

Yes. When first concieved it was KISS. Mike and I thought it best to drop the the last S. We felt a project with Stupid in the name might not do so well....lol
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PostAuthor: Dioncecht » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:51 am

Yeah, 'stupid' in teh name doesn't usually say alot of good things about the software! hehehe
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PostAuthor: Leadfoot » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:36 am

Well sounds like a decent name. Hell might even get kissed <img>

Keep up the good work.
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Re: Integramod2 now KisMod!

PostAuthor: Helter » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:40 pm

promises, promises, Leady ....lol
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Re: Integramod2 now KisMod!

PostAuthor: Dr. Bantham » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:15 pm

I agree that a name change is in order, but KisMod?

Seriously, the last thing I want to do is offend those that work so hard on this project for the benefit of the community, but this new name does not work for me at all. From a marketability perspective, it seems to fall far short of the mark. It sounds cute and fails to instill confidence.

Besides, the past strength of IntegraMOD was the vast amount of modifications which were integrated. The "Keep It Simple" concept is to strip down things to the essentials as a sacrifice for maintaining ease of use and reliability. Though maintaining the latter two concepts is a great idea, it is still important to note that the pre-mod concept is to build upon the phpBB core with collection of feature-laden mods, not strip things down. It is a total contradiction, in my mind.

There is also the fact that it will no doubt lead to confusion with the Kiss Portal project, which was clearly defined as a separate development. Sure, turning mods on and off from the ACP would certainly make the process simple, but it still does not quite fit. Besides, even if the two projects merge it will still be waaay down the line.

Again, I am grateful for all of the hard work, but I can not help but voice my opinion on what I believe to be a poor name choice.

What is in name?
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Re: Integramod2 now KisMod!

PostAuthor: Solomon » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:37 pm

Name Change 8)
Name Choice :?
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Re: Integramod2 now KisMod!

PostAuthor: InterNETionallyKnown » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:03 pm

"Dr. Bantham";p="16335" wrote:I agree that a name change is in order, but KisMod?

Seriously, the last thing I want to do is offend those that work so hard on this project for the benefit of the community, but this new name does not work for me at all. From a marketability perspective, it seems to fall far short of the mark. It sounds cute and fails to instill confidence.

Besides, the past strength of IntegraMOD was the vast amount of modifications which were integrated. The "Keep It Simple" concept is to strip down things to the essentials as a sacrifice for maintaining ease of use and reliability. Though maintaining the latter two concepts is a great idea, it is still important to note that the pre-mod concept is to build upon the phpBB core with collection of feature-laden mods, not strip things down. It is a total contradiction, in my mind.

There is also the fact that it will no doubt lead to confusion with the Kiss Portal project, which was clearly defined as a separate development. Sure, turning mods on and off from the ACP would certainly make the process simple, but it still does not quite fit. Besides, even if the two projects merge it will still be waaay down the line.

Again, I am grateful for all of the hard work, but I can not help but voice my opinion on what I believe to be a poor name choice.

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I couldn't agree more. Took the words right out of my mouth.

From a marketability standpoint, KisMod sounds like a grade 1 school project. It's one syllable and one letter away from KidMod. In what's going to be groing competition in the next 5 years for projects like phpNuke, vBanced, IntegraMOD and others, you can't have a name that sounds like

kiddieMod..

This is why in companies like the one I work for, devs are a seperate division from marketing, which is not to suggest that devs can't market, but devs are best at developing, not marketing. And it is a well known fact, that often times devs favor ease of code over ease of use, even if easier code doesn't suit the user.

I agree with dr bantam, that the whole concept of this project and why people have flocked here is to have integrated modifications out of the box, not a stripped down version, that they have to wait about a year for only one person who knows the system to develop.

And when you say "Keep It Simple", my question is "keep what simple"?? KISportal actually makes it harder for me in terms of having to wait for and add mods as compared to their being available right out of the box. It's eliminates user error when the mods are already installed.

I do like the concept of being able to detatch mods, but not at the sake of a weak name, and not at the sake of having to wait for something to detatch.

Now of course devs can point the fingers at users and say "you're not being considerate of what it takes to develop", while users can say "you're not being considerate of what it takes to use". where in this case both are right, but the devs stand more to lose if people chose something else.

Thats what drives competition in the free-market. As long as the customer has options, then its up to the provider to satisfy the customer with the options that the customer wants, which is always ease of use. And if the customer says, he doesn't want something called KISMod then you have to go the route of the customer.

At least in this case give it a stronger name. Something with emphasis and which scales into the future, and which gives a lasting impression just by the name.

I had suggested eVolver 1.0, but hold a poll. Let the community name it.

But kissmod, that doesn't sound too strong. It sounds like one of those scripts you see on hot-scripts, that when you click the screen you're taken to a redirect of a site that don't exist anymore. One of those scripts that be way back on page 15 of the search list or the one that don't have a box with it.

When people look at my footer, I want them to see something strong down there. something highpowered, something that sounds commercial, something that sounds like its worth a thousand dollars.

kisKiddieKicktheKittyMOD doesn't have any ring to it. There's no effect in the name.

But awesome project though. I'll give it that. Great work.
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PostAuthor: sanji » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:24 pm

Indeed, the name sounds a little... well, childish.

But I guess that now that you have bought a new domain name, you are not going to change the name, are you? So let's start to get used to it...

Another great things is that it might be easier to understand the numbering of the versions. From 1.4.0 to 1.4.1 seems just a small update while obviously many things are changing. by the way, shouldn't you start at 2.0 to follow the phpbb version you are based on, as in a future a 3.0 version is expected?

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Re: Integramod2 now KisMod!

PostAuthor: Helter » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:42 pm

we were working on 2.0 which is why Wekke burned the midnight oil to release his version and name it 2.0. Rather than confuse the public with two diferent 2.0 versions, we elected to stick with 141.

If you think about it Integramod was once a silly name. We all accept it because it was here before us. Why? because the developer named it that. IM Portal was not a comunity project. It was Masterdavids project. Out of it was born the community project, IntegraMOD. Kis Portal, is likewise Michealo's project, and It is well known anoung the phpbb dev community. So whatever name we choose, it had to include the core project name. It was never developed to be the root of integramod, but it was superior to IM Portal and has the potential to be the best open source portal money cant buy, so Mike, being a contributing member of this community, graciously stepped in and offered it to us.
If your concerned that the savy technicaly inclined type users will steer clear, your probably right. Most already steer clear of integramod. As far as most of them are concerned, anything premodded is for nubs. dont believe me? ask about us on phpbb.com
The average user starts out looking for something easy to use. That is what brought me to Integramod in the first place.
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PostAuthor: Unregistered » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:39 am

how abt IntegraBB? <img>
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