Opera Version 9 incompatabilites

[Simon N]

Or just set the security mod to not allow anyone using opera to visit and have them redirected to Firefox homepage?????

[Unregistered]

LOL thats not an option <img>

[Dr. Bantham]

Version 9.10 of Opera has been released and IntegraMOD sites are apparently still incompatible. Neither my IM 1.4.0 site or this IM 1.4.1 site work at all. A white screen is displayed with a few graphic characters in the upper lefthand corner. It is disconcerting to think that many visitors may arrive at my site and think that it is down indefinately or defunct permanently. I know that Opera is not the most popular browser, but it is a slice of the web pie which should not be overlooked. We now have a Nintendo Wii in our house as of Christmas, which offers internet browsing via a custom version of Opera. Interestingly, it arrives with an error message at IM sites which suggests that the site has corrupt data. Wii Opera, as with PC versions of Opera, has no trouble with stock phpBB sites and Invision Power Board.

[Teelk]

I used to use Opera exclusively, it was the best and there was no substitute, not even Firefox. But, since version 9 the quality has slipped significantly, IM is not the only website to fall prey to the Opera 9's terrible page rendering. If you set the Opera Browser to identify as Firefox or IE when visiting an IM site, it'll allow you to visit the site, but you'll get multiple rendering issues.

I don't know what the Opera people did to this new version, but I'm incredibly disappointed that a major browser's rendering capabilities are so terrible.

Despite that, I think that it's important to fix at least the "corrupt data" error, so that users of IM sites can visit with Opera 9. However, if switching Opera to identify as another browser fixes that error, I have to assume that IM is somehow blocking Opera as an agent. But, I know that it isn't or at least isn't purposefully.

If it could be determined generally what is blocking Opera, ie. User agent blocking, a piece of code it doesn't like, etc then a dev could have a starting point to try and fix this problem.

Right now, all I can do is keep trying I guess.

[Vadar]

This is interesting. I have seen similar behavior with Opera a couple of times in the past on various computers, but right now both on my laptop and my home computer my 1.4.0 and my 1.4.1 sites (as well as the integrmod.com site) all come up fine in Opera 9.1.0 and show no rendering problems.

Although I test my sites with IE, Firefox and SeaMonkey (Mozilla), I use Opera exclusively for my personal browsing, having found it the most stable and secure of all of these browers and the one with the best feature set right out of the box.

Please give me a link to a site you are having problems rendering in Opera, as I would like to take a look. As I mentioned though, right now with version 9.1.0 I am not seeing a problem.

[Teelk]

For me there's a major issue with the ACP. The DHTML slide menu doesn't work and the left frame is too large. Are you getting this issue at all?

[Vadar]

No, I'm not seeing any problems at all in the ACP. I generally use the "Fit to Width" option, particularly on my laptop (15 inch screen) but I don't see a problem either with that option on or off. The DHTML slide menu works fine and the left frame size seems fine with the "Fit to Width" option on or off (it is larger with that option off, but I thnk that is mainly because I constantly leave it on).

I'm not saying I haven't seen the problem Dr. Bantham described above - the graphic characters in the upper-left corner. Whenever I saw that in the past I simply changed over the options for that page to have Opera identify itself as Firefox, and the problem went away. However within the last month or so I haven't seen this problem at all, and I no longer have to modify the network settings to mask as IE or Firefox. I had thought this was due to an update to Opera, but I guess that isn't it. I'm not sure why it would appear to be a problem on certain platforms and not others. Both of the computers I am working with right now are running XP Pro, but that shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Could it have anything to do with additional modifications made to IM? Both the 1.4.0 and the 1.4.1 RC5 portals I have up have no modifications other than the obvious security modifications we had to include a few months ago.

[Teelk]

Hadn't tried it in a while, but you're right. The rendering issues seem to be fixed, for IM anyway. I still had to identify as Firefox however, or I got the strange characters in the upper left corner.

[Vadar]

Teelk: Now that you've had it work correctly by having it identify as Firefox, could you try going back to the Opera setting, reloading and seeing if the problem goes away? I was thinking that it might need to load one time correctly and then it might be OK after that. That seems to have been my experience.

[Teelk]

Once I switch back to identifying as opera it doesn't work anymore.

EDIT: I found where the problem is, it's with the gzip compression code in includes/page_header.php. Opera must not like the useragent code in there somewhere. If you turn off gzip in ACP>General Admin>Configuration, then Opera can access the page.

[Vadar]

That's funny, because I've always had Gzip turned on, and I don't see this problem.

[Teelk]

That is strange, cause I've fixed the issue for the most part. It was affecting both my test boards and any live IM board I visited. I'm still working on a bug or two before I release this one though, as another issue popped up after the fix.

[Teelk]

Here's the fix... http://www.integramod.com/forum/viewtop ... 8840#18840