thanks Helter..... have a hug
and yeah we got it.....still working on it though...but have a look.....
http://hels.theimmortalrealm.net/test.htm
we still need to do loadsa work on it obviously ....get the banners out, basically what I want in that box is just a quick links section to the bars and open forums for guests...main index is accessible by other links...have someone working on the background image that is just something I shoved up to get a feel.
it actually was a lot easier than I thought it would be. like I said I love my IM board and don't want to get rid of it...but I hate the boxy feel.
mind you it's still a box *Sigh*